If you like thinky thoughts definitely read the meta I linked to. Very good stuff.
I've read both, but yes, I don't think that brainwashing would have been necessary, not comics voodoo style. I think a person can be broken down without it and I think it's actually creepier and worse if it's not brainwashing, if every time Natasha believes. That's what I was trying to get at in the last Avengers fic that I wrote, that if you tell a child who the monsters are, even if they know that the ones doing the telling are monsters too, what you could make them do.
How many times was her entire world view basically struck down and then rebuilt again? Which is exactly as you say, being 'remade'. Exactly! Welcome to the general fandom headcanon lol.
In my head the rumours of a Black Widow film are true and in my head it is done well and The Bourne Legacy is secretly a Clint backstory *nods*.
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I've read both, but yes, I don't think that brainwashing would have been necessary, not comics voodoo style. I think a person can be broken down without it and I think it's actually creepier and worse if it's not brainwashing, if every time Natasha believes. That's what I was trying to get at in the last Avengers fic that I wrote, that if you tell a child who the monsters are, even if they know that the ones doing the telling are monsters too, what you could make them do.
How many times was her entire world view basically struck down and then rebuilt again? Which is exactly as you say, being 'remade'. Exactly! Welcome to the general fandom headcanon lol.
In my head the rumours of a Black Widow film are true and in my head it is done well and The Bourne Legacy is secretly a Clint backstory *nods*.