Hmm, from this I get a division of the security aparatus and the technology used for it, which is interesting. I think (?) you're saying that technology itself isn't a bad thing, or a good thing, just a thing and it's down to the people using it and their intent that makes it good or bad. So Fury had good intentions, and so even if his use of technology goes wrong he's in the right. And people are inevitably flawed, so the use of technology for security cannot escape human error. Which, yes. Because technology is data input from people, built by people, designed by people. I love the thought that Ultron might arise from trying to correct this flaw! Up until now I'd been thinking that we had Tony with his AI and automated suits and it was only a matter of time before he plays with combining the two, and that SHIELD falling by the wayside and Iron Man perhaps needing to face multiple threats around the world at once, this could be a trigger.
(ALTHOUGH I still wish Hank Pym had a hand in this, or someone, because I'm dreading Ultron being Tony's fault, which I can see coming, and Hank Pym is an ass. Sorry, I have feelings on htis ;) )
The second thing, on the back of this, is that technology is only an aspect of the security aparatus though. By which I mean a series of rules, expectations, a way of thinking, that's subsribed to. So basically back in WW2 it was keep all the bad guys out and project your country's borders, as opposed to the modern aparatus being that the bad guys are inside and outside, there's no inside or outside really any more, and we want people to move around because we get more data from them that way, and the more we know about them the more we secure against them or for them. So I can see the thinking that the technology isn't bad when it's in Fury's hands, but that his intentions are 'good'... The idea of stopping events before they've even happened and punishing people for it is problematic. (See Minority Report) and yet that's the aim. And being able to have all information on people, watch them all the time, that's freedom from but not so much freedom to.
I think I'm trying to say that if they attempt to remove the human from the technology, the security aparatus will remain and is itself flawed. I think. You have me being thinky *grins*.
Gosh yes, and so many changes in the 'verse and possibilities :D
Aww, I just like it when people chat with me *hugs*.
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(ALTHOUGH I still wish Hank Pym had a hand in this, or someone, because I'm dreading Ultron being Tony's fault, which I can see coming, and Hank Pym is an ass. Sorry, I have feelings on htis ;) )
The second thing, on the back of this, is that technology is only an aspect of the security aparatus though. By which I mean a series of rules, expectations, a way of thinking, that's subsribed to. So basically back in WW2 it was keep all the bad guys out and project your country's borders, as opposed to the modern aparatus being that the bad guys are inside and outside, there's no inside or outside really any more, and we want people to move around because we get more data from them that way, and the more we know about them the more we secure against them or for them. So I can see the thinking that the technology isn't bad when it's in Fury's hands, but that his intentions are 'good'... The idea of stopping events before they've even happened and punishing people for it is problematic. (See Minority Report) and yet that's the aim. And being able to have all information on people, watch them all the time, that's freedom from but not so much freedom to.
I think I'm trying to say that if they attempt to remove the human from the technology, the security aparatus will remain and is itself flawed. I think. You have me being thinky *grins*.
Gosh yes, and so many changes in the 'verse and possibilities :D
Aww, I just like it when people chat with me *hugs*.